

You are one of the premier songwriters of all time. I asked Tom if he would help me write a song. I had a visitation from an old boyfriend, right after my rehab, and it had shaken me. I was at my house in Phoenix – I had come out of rehab – and I had dinner with him at the Ritz-Carlton. Is there an example of advice that you did take? If you don’t, that’s fine too.” He was never going to shake a finger in your face and make you feel bad if you didn’t take his advice. He was the kind of person who said, “Here’s my advice. The women around him pretty much went their own way, and he was good with that. He was surrounded by really strong women. Yet he had a unique ability, among male rock stars, to write about women with frank but affectionate empathy. Tom came out of a macho Florida culture and was the leader of a band that was almost like a gang. I look back on that and what a magical moment that was: Shania got to stand there with me and watch my boys. I need to watch this show with you.” Shania and I watched Tom’s show and sang at the top of our lungs. She said, “I’m going to be greedy right now. After I came off stage from my set, she came backstage. It was interesting because Shania Twain had come to see me and to watch Tom. Here, in this unpublished excerpt from our interview, Nicks recalls her deep friendship with Petty and that day in Hyde Park. She reprised “Stop Draggin’ My Heart Around” with Petty and the Heartbreakers in July, when she opened for them with her solo band at London’s Hyde Park. Nicks performed both songs with Petty and the Heartbreakers last February at the MusiCares charity event honoring Petty as their Person of the Year. The two met in 1978, Nicks said, and first performed together on record in 1981 – on “Insider,” from his album, Hard Promises, and on Nicks’ Top Five solo single “Stop Draggin’ My Heart Around,” written by Petty and Heartbreakers guitarist Mike Campbell. Nicks was speaking to me a week after Petty’s death for Rolling Stone‘s feature tribute to the Heartbreakers’ founding leader. Read the rest of the interview here, listen to “Hard Advice” below, and watch Nicks talk about Petty’s influence on the song above.“They were always taking a step up,” Fleetwood Mac singer Stevie Nicks said of her close friend Tom Petty, his loyal band the Heartbreakers and their constant, determined ascent in ambition and popularity over four rock & roll decades. The chorus goes, ‘Sometimes he’s my best friend.’ It was really, ‘Sometimes Tom’s my best friend.’ I changed it because I knew Tom would not want me to say his name. The song is called “Hard Advice.” It ended up on 24 Karat Gold. When I walked out of the Ritz-Carlton, I had that feeling that he would be waiting to hear it.

You don’t need me to write a song for you.’ He said, ‘Just go to your piano and write a good song. “I had a visitation from an old boyfriend, right after my rehab, and it had shaken me. She also spoke about the advice Petty gave her over the years, and how “he was never going to shake a finger in your face and make you feel bad if you didn’t take his advice.” Nicks recalled one time in 1994 when she had dinner with Petty at the Ritz-Carlton in Phoenix, shortly after a stint in rehab, and he refused to help her write a song: Stevie Nicks met fellow rock legend Tom Petty in the ’70s, and they’ve worked together multiple times since then, including on the 1981 Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers album Hard Promises and Nicks’ single from the same year, “Stop Draggin’ My Heart Around.” In a recent Rolling Stone interview, Nicks shares some memories about her late friend, including standing side-stage with Shania Twain to watch Petty perform, and how the strong women in Petty’s life informed his songwriting.
